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Posted by Chelle on January 23, 2003 at 11:05:08:
In Reply to: Re: Weave pole frustration... posted by agilebasenji on January 22, 2003 at 23:49:07:
:You know, I don't think there is anyone on this earth who has tried more different methods to teach one little dog to weave than I have. (And I'm not really bragging about that.) I've used the channel (what your school is using) with and without guide wires, straight line weaves also with and without guide wires, slant poles and clicker training. I've not used but also researched using gates and quickly scrapped back chaining (not even sure if I really used it or not). I've used some of these methods simultaneously and some in the same time frame, but not at the exact same time. (I used the slant poles at home and the channel in class. I also used the slant poles and clicked for the behavior I wanted.)
I think that's why I decided to ask before trying "everything." My dog is a shiba inu- kind of similar learning style to the besenji. It's not that they aren't bright, but they don't see the world like a lab or golden retriever. I might try the slanted poles, she's very space oriented (but not in the way the channels make her go). A "reminder" in front of her might be best. I'll have to modify my pole set to do this, but I'm as clever as a shiba and should be able to so that ;). As for class, I think I will just explain that I don't think that channeling method is working for my dog. They are good instructors and should understand that- especially since I am working on it at home. Thank you for breaking it down into the steps. I can get her into it fine so we are having problems on the "keeping it going" part. Speed, she almost has too much of. I think though I'll "perfect" things slowly and not care about class. It's true, what other dogs are having problems with are not our issue. Teeter- no big deal. Jumping- there aren't enough of them for her. Contacts- she's getting really good at.
Please do not resort to doing that awful hip/leg motion that I've seen novices do. (This is physically blocking the dog by moving the leg from the hip going in/out in/out. A visual works better than my description.)
That aught to be fun to watch! I'll make it a point to not. I don't need to look any more stupid thatn I already do sometimes.
Also, thanks for the clicker info. My email address should be available and I wouldn't mind the article.
Also, I do my very best not to do anything when my dog messes up here. She doesn't work well with any form of verbal correction when she's confused. I can see teh cogs running in her brain to understand this, but we have a failure to communicate on this. I'm sure it's my body language "pushing" her out in the channels. When working in a straight line, I have to focus very much on what I do and how I do it. Yet, it is working. I haven't tried guide wires. I'm not so sure they'd work with her as much, but worth a shot. Thanks. I really appreciate the support and advice. This is a great sport and it's wonderful for team building. My obedience has improved so much since we started doing this. Off-leash work was horrible, but now, it's getting better because in order to do agility you have to be in control off-leash. She's getting it. It doesn't hurt that sometimes I put her through a tunnel before or after class- just for motivation on that "boring" stuff. Thanks again.