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Posted by angel416 on March 03, 2003 at 10:19:28:
In Reply to: Re: Feed what your dog does best on. posted by KingAndysDad on March 01, 2003 at 19:49:12:
::well then it is amazing that my family (farmers) survived as long as they did on the toxic vegetables, and I will be forever amazed that wolves, rabbits, coyotes, moles, lions, and other animals aren't dropping dead all over the place from eating toxic carrots or toxic meat and vegetables.
:You've obviously missed the point. I'm sure your family did not eat only raw foods, and ate mostly cooked vegetables. Raw foods are fine in moderation, the fact is a diet exclusively raw is not optimal for humans, nor is it for dogs. People that advocate raw foods diets have a poor understanding of the science behind nutrition and health.
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On the contrary, I think you have missed my point. My family eats a significant amount of raw vegetables, infcat most of my family prefers their vegetables raw. If you ruly belive that the only way to get nutritional value out of a vegetable is to cook it, you are wrong.
People surived before they learned how to cook food. Animals survived without ever cooking food. As people learned how to cook food, and add sugars and additives to it, they began to live shorter lives. The same is true for dogs. I'm not saying that there aren't some dogs that live long healthy lives now, but i am saying that they definitely lived long healthy lives without kibble.
My grandparents and great grandparents had dogs on the farm that lived 15 and 15 + years without the benefit of purina. Which just must have been amazing luck.
You argue that people who advocate raw diets have no understanding of nutrition. Dogs descend from wolves. They are carnivores. Why wouldn't it make sense to feed them what carnivores eat? When was the last time you saw a wolf grazing in corn field or eating peanut hulls? They don't, because that isn't what carnivores eat. My dog is doing well on a raw diet. I know others that have dogs doing well on a raw diet. I feed it because that is what I choose. You are welcome to feed whatever you want, but by no means should you assume that I have no knowledge of nutrition.
Yes some vegetables probably have toxic substances, not because they were created that way, but because people ad them to vegetables. People use chemicals and fertilizers that destroy nutrients and add toxins, because the want the biggest pumpkin at the state fair. So now you clean your vegetables, or you buy organic.
Also, I would rather take the risk of the alleged carrot toxin because i know that the carrot has nutrients that my dog needs, rather than knowingly feeding him corn meal and peanut hulls held together by rendered fat and toxic chemicals. I personally wouldn't want to eat that everyday, but ask yourself this, if purina started making "people chow", would you eat it everyday?