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Posted by KingAndysDad on March 03, 2003 at 21:51:31:

In Reply to: Re: Feed what your dog does best on. posted by angel416 on March 03, 2003 at 10:19:28:

:On the contrary, I think you have missed my point. My family eats a significant amount of raw vegetables, infcat most of my family prefers their vegetables raw. If you ruly belive that the only way to get nutritional value out of a vegetable is to cook it, you are wrong.

I never said cooked is the "only way". The fact is some nutrients are more bioavailable out of cooked rather than raw vegetables.

:People surived before they learned how to cook food. Animals survived without ever cooking food. As people learned how to cook food, and add sugars and additives to it, they began to live shorter lives. The same is true for dogs.

This is flat out wrong and flies in the face of statistics and research on human AND canine longevity. Simply a myth.

:You argue that people who advocate raw diets have no understanding of nutrition. Dogs descend from wolves. They are carnivores. Why wouldn't it make sense to feed them what carnivores eat? When was the last time you saw a wolf grazing in corn field or eating peanut hulls? They don't, because that isn't what carnivores eat. My dog is doing well on a raw diet. I know others that have dogs doing well on a raw diet. I feed it because that is what I choose. You are welcome to feed whatever you want, but by no means should you assume that I have no knowledge of nutrition.

Sorry, but to clarify, the "people" I was referring to are not lay people like yourself but "professionals" like Billinghurst. I've extensively read his works and can tell you unequivocally much of what he writes is complete fantasy. From the canine health problems attributed to cooked foods to the need for "living" enzymes in raw foods.

:Yes some vegetables probably have toxic substances, not because they were created that way, but because people ad them to vegetables.

Not true. The toxins I refer to are naturally occurring pesticides that most plants produce to protect themselves from attack from insects, bacteria, molds and the like. Completely organically grown foods will have just as much as any others.

:Also, I would rather take the risk of the alleged carrot toxin because i know that the carrot has nutrients that my dog needs, rather than knowingly feeding him corn meal and peanut hulls held together by rendered fat and toxic chemicals. I personally wouldn't want to eat that everyday, but ask yourself this, if purina started making "people chow", would you eat it everyday?

I, my family, and my pets have and always will eat a mixture of processed and fresh foods, including raw fruits and vegetables. I don't advocate all processed only, just as I don't all raw.

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